I have a roping saddle for sale marked J Spence, rawhide tree,had new stirrup leathers put in it at the boot doctor in great bend last winter, they may have 5 rides on them I don't use this saddle much, full Quarter horse bars it is a 16 inch seat and it's a little big for me, I would consider trading for a 15 or 15.5 inch saddle or I'll sell it. Asking $450! Call text or email me with questions. No tire kickers. 620-617-2573